By Anonymous CowardPosted Monday 9th July 2007 14:33 GMT
VGA touchscreen
AGPS
USB Host & client
Nice specifications for that price. Once someone gets Windows Mobile running on this, I'll buy one ;)
Still an iPhone...
By Brett BrennanPosted Monday 9th July 2007 14:36 GMT
...in that it's EDGE only. {SIGH!} When will they release the version with HSDPA (not that it works worth a damn here in at&t land) or, better yet, with CDMA so I can at least get 2.9G service from Sprint's EVDO network?
Until then, I think I'll make a cardboard cut-out and keep it on my cube wall...as a reminder of what might be...
What's in a name
By Rodrigo ValenzuelaPosted Monday 9th July 2007 15:04 GMT
If the phone is good or bad, I don't know... but for the Spanish speaking market, they will need to change the name.
"moko" sounds exactly like "moco" which is a synonym for "booger".
Just like that...
R
Looks quite decent
By Kevin HallPosted Monday 9th July 2007 15:25 GMT
Looks quite a good phone with some interesting ideas. The Sharp Zaurus was a great idea - I had one and the quality of the software was really quite good. Unfortunately the developer effort let it down a bit and I was forced back to Palm. I don't think it'll ever be a Nokia-killer but at least it shows some more imaginative thinking beyond adding more cameras/MP3 players and other crap to a phone.
Finally Ordered
By AndrewPosted Monday 9th July 2007 15:26 GMT
I've been waiting months to get my hands on one. Now they're released I have mine ordered. It's going to be fantastic to finally get hold of one. There's the potential for so much. Imagine being able to set your phone to change ringtone to the mother in law's favourite tune when you visit their house. There are just so many uses available for the blend of integrated devices that this phone will nowt but succeed for the developers. It's just a case of working on the UI to make it a consumer 'must have' when it comes out in October/November.
Finally!
By CorrinePosted Monday 9th July 2007 15:33 GMT
Of course, there's a decent chance that no phone companies will actually let me use the thing. I don't know of anybody who will let you bring just any phone. I'll bug sprint about it later on.
And if it had windows mobile, it wouldn't be cheap.
Unfriendly Touchscreen Input
By SkavengerPosted Monday 9th July 2007 15:41 GMT
Until they STOP putting silly touchscreen keyboards on these things, I will refuse to buy one. I have had 2 touchscreen only phones in the past and both times the onscreen keyboard has turned out to be the biggest pile of dung in the world. Its just the fact there is a total lack of feedback that makes typing any message pretty much impossible.
More bad naming...
By MikePosted Monday 9th July 2007 16:04 GMT
@Rodrigo Valenzuela
Its almost as bad as the Vauxhall Nova, which I'm told beans 'doesn't go' in spanish...
OpenBSD?
By Dillon PyronPosted Monday 9th July 2007 16:53 GMT
One of my co-workers is an OpenBSD god. I wonder how long it would take him to get it running on one of these phones.
Rodrigo, it snot what you think it means. :-)
tie touchscreen keyboard to knock/vibe control for feedback(pat pending)
By DougPosted Monday 9th July 2007 17:36 GMT
not sure if the current 'vibe' control is fine tuned enough for just a single knock but a good first step would be as short a buzz as possible on key presses. Then, get FIC to mod the vibe control for a knock pulse before the consumer release and they'll probably win over some customers and maybe the press with a touchscreen keyboard with feedback.
In the meantime, someone who's got one of these should implement it before Microsoft patents it.
Re: tie touchscreen keyboard to knock/vibe control for feedback(pat pending)
By Simon HarrisPosted Monday 9th July 2007 18:38 GMT
By Giles JonesPosted Monday 9th July 2007 23:02 GMT
Been looking for a new phone, nothing takes my fancy. This however looks cool with it's VGA screen and Linux software.
I mainly use a Windows Smartphone for GPS. If this gets some GPS software it would be useful. If not then I'll get a Tomtom unit.
Ug
By joe_bruinPosted Tuesday 10th July 2007 01:31 GMT
I'm no foaming-at-the-mouth rabid Apple fanboy, and in fact usually put function over form. But why, oh why, could they not have made it look like any other plain, boring, normal phone? That thing is just hideous. And let me tell you, in mixed company, "it runs Linux" will hardly work as an excuse to justify that.
Re: Still an iPhone
By Alexander HanffPosted Tuesday 10th July 2007 02:54 GMT
Actually this release doesn't support 3G it is a limited release aimed only at developers with a very limited number of phones available. The public release will be 3G and will have a camera and wifi.
You should also note that the Neo1973 has built in GPS.
Tomtom
By David LeemingPosted Tuesday 10th July 2007 07:07 GMT
"I mainly use a Windows Smartphone for GPS. If this gets some GPS software it would be useful. If not then I'll get a Tomtom unit."
Tomtom one was/is Linux based. In fact Openmoko uses some of the GPL code written and released by Tomtom.
I give it a week before you can download a version of TT for this beauty.
I put my order in within hours of the announcement. I can ditch my horrible WM5 device - well the hardware is ok, but the software (TT aside) sucks big time. Let UPS gods deliver my FIC1973 quickly!
re:openmoko moko = moco = booger
By Anonymous CowardPosted Tuesday 10th July 2007 07:32 GMT
In response to moko/moco = booger it may sound better if they renamed the platform to OpenMoJo?
Re: More bad naming...
By David CorbettPosted Tuesday 10th July 2007 07:45 GMT
"Its almost as bad as the Vauxhall Nova, which I'm told beans 'doesn't go' in spanish..."
But nowhere near as bad as the Mitsubishi Pajero. Apparently, 'Pajero' is Spanish slang for 'wanker'!
Nothing new here...
By KjetilPosted Tuesday 10th July 2007 07:48 GMT
The Trolltech (the guys behind QT which KDE is built on) has had the Greenphone on the market for a while now. I tested one first, and it was scarily fast. Push a button, and it just did what you wanted, no waiting at all.
http://trolltech.com/products/qtopia/greenphone
Nice
By Dr. MousePosted Tuesday 10th July 2007 08:31 GMT
I saw these a month ago. Looking at downloading developement emultaor to put decent linux-based handwriting recognition on it.
The cool thing is that, as it's completely open, it can do whatever you want. The release version will even have 2 3D accelerometers, which could make it usable as a computer mouse. It will also have a 3D graphics chipset, so I'm thinking ports of some decent opensource opengl games will be in the offing. OOh, maybe a port of TuxRacer :D (penguin racing down a snowy hill on its belly)
It is the essence of open source, with even the hardware specs open (except a few bits they cant), so your realy can do anything with it. And at $450 for the release version with GPS/3G etc, its a bargain.
And to those that dont like the look, I personaly think its smooth, sleek, and simple, although I would prefer it not being quite so rounded at the ends. May have to build my own case for it :D
What's in a name?
By Nick MilesPosted Tuesday 10th July 2007 10:26 GMT
Colgate means "Go hang yourself" in Spanish IIRC, but it's generally cars that go for bad translations; Cortina - Curtain; Sierra - Saw;
and the MR2 from Toyota if said in French, means "shit" MRDeux / merde.
It looks kinda cool
By heystoopidPosted Tuesday 10th July 2007 13:46 GMT
It looks kinda cool! , and I doubt very much it will have much of a battery replacement problem unlike the Jobs Cupertino model
And since it is a GPL3 license , no hidden unwanted extras or open back windows , since Linux is by it's very nature one of the more secure OS, and the source code is readily available for the curious ones!
As for car names , why do you think the Paris Dakar rally winning titanium chassis carbon fibre body shell plastic fantastic Mitsubishi Pajero as sold in a number of English speaking countries but is re-badged as a Montero or Shogun in the many countries that speak Spanish (hint it is the Spanish word for wanker)
Given a choice who indeed wouldn't go for a smart phone with similar features but not locked to some of the less than reliable mobile phone networks and expensive fixed term 2 year contracts and half the price of hidden DRM'd Cupertino units
RE: Finally
By Jonathan FittPosted Tuesday 10th July 2007 14:49 GMT
The phone is GSM, and so AFAIK Sprint being CDMA, it won't work on them. Try T-mobile or AT&T in the USA.
Also, don't worry about an operator rejecting it, just take any SIM card from an existing contract, or a PAYG SIM and pop it in and voila!
AFAIK operators do not do effectively a "User-Agent ID" check on the phone model it's normally the phone that prevents you registering with non-allowed providers which locks the phone. Even if they did do a check, how long do you think it would take someone to change this phone to report itself as a Nokia :P
Why doesn't it come with 3G?
By Anonymous CowardPosted Thursday 12th July 2007 11:49 GMT
Telcos offer affordable 3G flat fees in so many countries.. why would i like to buy a brand new phone and still had to suffer from often even more expensive GSM data connection?
No, i'm sorry, i am soo looking forward having a free phone with linux and the OpenMoko looks just as the right thing to buy, but I won't buy one until it supports 3G.
Alexander Hanff claimed above that the enduser model should support 3G.. can you prove that? I haven't seen that in the specs for the October release.
What's in a name III
By Nano nanoPosted Friday 13th July 2007 15:59 GMT
Also, SEGA in Italian (I was informed) means 'saw' and is slang for "self-abuse".
Comments on: Is your phone free?
*RAWR*
By Anonymous Coward Posted Monday 9th July 2007 14:33 GMT
Still an iPhone...
By Brett Brennan Posted Monday 9th July 2007 14:36 GMT
What's in a name
By Rodrigo Valenzuela Posted Monday 9th July 2007 15:04 GMT
Looks quite decent
By Kevin Hall Posted Monday 9th July 2007 15:25 GMT
Finally Ordered
By Andrew Posted Monday 9th July 2007 15:26 GMT
Finally!
By Corrine Posted Monday 9th July 2007 15:33 GMT
Unfriendly Touchscreen Input
By Skavenger Posted Monday 9th July 2007 15:41 GMT
More bad naming...
By Mike Posted Monday 9th July 2007 16:04 GMT
OpenBSD?
By Dillon Pyron Posted Monday 9th July 2007 16:53 GMT
tie touchscreen keyboard to knock/vibe control for feedback(pat pending)
By Doug Posted Monday 9th July 2007 17:36 GMT
Re: tie touchscreen keyboard to knock/vibe control for feedback(pat pending)
By Simon Harris Posted Monday 9th July 2007 18:38 GMT
Nice
By Giles Jones Posted Monday 9th July 2007 23:02 GMT
Ug
By joe_bruin Posted Tuesday 10th July 2007 01:31 GMT
Re: Still an iPhone
By Alexander Hanff Posted Tuesday 10th July 2007 02:54 GMT
Tomtom
By David Leeming Posted Tuesday 10th July 2007 07:07 GMT
re:openmoko moko = moco = booger
By Anonymous Coward Posted Tuesday 10th July 2007 07:32 GMT
Re: More bad naming...
By David Corbett Posted Tuesday 10th July 2007 07:45 GMT
Nothing new here...
By Kjetil Posted Tuesday 10th July 2007 07:48 GMT
Nice
By Dr. Mouse Posted Tuesday 10th July 2007 08:31 GMT
What's in a name?
By Nick Miles Posted Tuesday 10th July 2007 10:26 GMT
It looks kinda cool
By heystoopid Posted Tuesday 10th July 2007 13:46 GMT
RE: Finally
By Jonathan Fitt Posted Tuesday 10th July 2007 14:49 GMT
Why doesn't it come with 3G?
By Anonymous Coward Posted Thursday 12th July 2007 11:49 GMT
What's in a name III
By Nano nano Posted Friday 13th July 2007 15:59 GMT