By IM PhartainPosted Tuesday 29th July 2008 09:43 GMT
Will it cope with being knocked on its side?
Re: Stability
By DanielPosted Tuesday 29th July 2008 10:06 GMT
The disk and stuff will probably survive ok, but you won't be able to see if it works because the Nvidia graphics chip will have been knocked off the motherboard:
By Anonymous CowardPosted Tuesday 29th July 2008 10:19 GMT
HDMI Out for watching Blueray on @TV??
If so I'll consider one, for the living room.
price and windows tax
By paulPosted Tuesday 29th July 2008 10:31 GMT
putting me right off. If it doesn't have HDMI - then not interested in at all.
GBP400 version?
By David ShepherdPosted Tuesday 29th July 2008 10:34 GMT
The £399 version is a bit more basic than the one you mention ... 160GB disk, celeron processor, USB keyboard. Plus, took a bit of time for me to spot how to get to it as its not listed in the standard configs (usual Dell technique - advertise low price then on web page steer customers to more expensive versions while keeping the low price version "available" but not always easy yo find!)
Think I'm still waiting for the Eee Box though!
HDMI
By SimonPosted Tuesday 29th July 2008 10:36 GMT
For a camcorder? Why didn't you say the most obvious... a TV!
Unless there is a reason this won't work on a TV, if so, it should have been mentioned.
But, for £400, compact media player, nice. Media player with BluRay even nicer (yes, but for more).
Whats the Intel® Celeron™ Processor 550 like at 1080p? And (real world) compatibility with XP?
MediaPC?
By Jonathan SchnittgerPosted Tuesday 29th July 2008 10:40 GMT
Would the Intel Gfx X3100 chipset have enough umph to decode HD content? Not much point having BlueRay if it doesn't...
Odd marketing
By Christopher SmithPosted Tuesday 29th July 2008 10:56 GMT
Not available via the Office part of the site. Not available with Vista Business edition (or XP), no option for a 7200RPM hard disk.
Why would anyone want...
By Andraž LevstikPosted Tuesday 29th July 2008 11:11 GMT
...to use a digital restrictions management crippled interface to get pics or video or etc... from his own devices...
Insanity...
@ Simon: HDMI
By StefanPosted Tuesday 29th July 2008 11:27 GMT
A Celeron will happily decode MPEG2 at 1080p. Or it will with some help from a capable GPU. If you want to watch heavily compressed H.264, forget it. Not even 720p.
My dual-core 2.2GHz Dell M1730 can play 1080p Matroska packaged H.264, *until* it gets to very complex scenes. This is with me using not-so-intuitive (and one not-so-free) software products to bring as much efficiency as possible to the process.
Hi Def can be a costly business.
If it was availlable with windiows XP or Mythbuntu...
By Eric Van HaesendonckPosted Tuesday 29th July 2008 11:27 GMT
as well as a freeview reception card I could have been interested...
Video Playback
By Steven DickPosted Tuesday 29th July 2008 11:40 GMT
Seriously, if you want video playback, get one of these: http://www.popcornhour.com/onlinestore/
Its cheap, plays back all the video standards, networked, HDMI, ... The list goes on.
Oh, and no f****** DRM.
Really nice form-factor
By Reg VarneyPosted Tuesday 29th July 2008 12:09 GMT
and the missus will really appreciate the wooden sleeve look, but a bit of a pisser that it's only available with Vista.
Not wildly cheap once you start adding in all the options to get it to a decent machine either.
Still, good to see the majors starting to produce smaller kit like this
Should have an SSD option
By Gary FPosted Tuesday 29th July 2008 12:11 GMT
Very nice! Would be even better if they offered a solid state drive. OCZ have a brand new 64GB drive that reads at 120GB/sec. Low power, blisteringly fast, and deadly silent.
I'd prefer a "no-OS" or an "XP" option rather than Phista.
Oh, and a quad core option would be good too, but I guess they'll add that in the future. It looks like a better deal than a Shuttle.
Now, can they do the same trick with their servers? I'd like a server that uses 70% less power please. With a Ruby Red case. ;-) Paris 'cos she's like one of these too.
Stylish?
By David CornesPosted Tuesday 29th July 2008 12:14 GMT
Looking at the pics I thought the design does look pretty neat and cool, until I saw that horrid *Dell* badge on the side. Duhhhh - that's not gonna fly with the in-crowd methinks!
And no 7200rpm HD I imagine 'cos they'll only be squeezing 2.5" drives in there.
nice!
By bPosted Tuesday 29th July 2008 12:41 GMT
the march to lower power consumption continues..
most people don't need much more than this anyway..
quite bizarre retailers punting out these quad cores for machines that don't really run much software that can use it..it's just a waste of power! (i.e. "redundant power")
dell always seem to know where the button is, even if they don't hit it every single time..they hit it more than most, imo.
By Static1812Posted Tuesday 29th July 2008 12:41 GMT
Like the full sized Studios I can't seem to find XP drivers for 'em so you can't put XP on even if you want to.
@IM Phartain: Stable
By Bill CummingPosted Tuesday 29th July 2008 13:17 GMT
When it's off the stand they employ added "weeble" (TM) tech...
Dell Weeble's wobble but don't fall down....
used joke tag due to how bad this joke really is!
80% less size = 70% less power
By Colin MillarPosted Tuesday 29th July 2008 13:21 GMT
That sounds like a calculation done in the marketing department to me
@ eric - stick a tuner card in that box and all you will have is a toaster
I've just checked. It's VISTA only.
By Anonymous CowardPosted Tuesday 29th July 2008 13:49 GMT
No thanks.
In most countries exposing your...
By Anonymous CowardPosted Tuesday 29th July 2008 13:56 GMT
dinky winky is a criminal matter.....anyone tell Michael?
Wheres the screw driver
By Paul BrownPosted Tuesday 29th July 2008 13:56 GMT
Erm, it is just the geek me in? but how do you open it!!!
Just been onto Dell.
By Anonymous CowardPosted Tuesday 29th July 2008 14:08 GMT
Microsoft have banned them from selling it with XP.
As such, since I'd rather let Michael Jackson adopt my children, Harriet Harman educate my boys, or Gordon Brown ru(i)n the economy, than use it, I'm not going to buy one. I think the phrase from Good Morning Viet Nam says it best. "Vista sucks the sweat off a dead man's balls."
(Except I wasn't going to buy one anyway, I was going to buy 4 - study, living room, kitchen, and bedroom - if the first one was quiet - like silent quiet.)
Dinky or Tonka?
By The Stainless Steel CatPosted Tuesday 29th July 2008 15:19 GMT
"Dinky"? It's still a big beastie compared to the Mac Mini.
Still, wood-veneer is very 1970's so at least that's a step forward for Dell...
@AC Re: Just been on to Dell
By Colin MillarPosted Tuesday 29th July 2008 15:57 GMT
What? No s##thouse Wifi?
Bamboo, emerald, quartz and ruby???
By Anonymous CowardPosted Tuesday 29th July 2008 16:25 GMT
Don't you mean brown, green, and red? As for quartz, I think its natural state is clear or opaque, although it can come in a huge variety of colours. Come on James, don't go all namby pamby on us...;)
No XP. Bad News
By simon maaszPosted Tuesday 29th July 2008 16:43 GMT
Its on the front page of Dell UK now. I, like many will only use XP. I suggest everyone who thinks the same could go onto their online sales chat and ask if its available with XP, or you won't buy one. Its a nice looking little box and I would seriously consider it for a new PC I need to buy shortly. but Vista sucks.
For the money
By GuyPosted Tuesday 29th July 2008 16:48 GMT
If you just wanted a cheap unit to watch HD movies on, then, and I hate to say this being a PC fan through and through, wouldn't a PS3 be cheaper and more reliable? Sod the games aspect, as a media streaming front end, with Blu-Ray support, you can't do better for the money really.
Flame on I guess, but it isn't meant to be flame bait, I promise.
@paul brown
By Steven RaithPosted Tuesday 29th July 2008 18:38 GMT
Screwdriver? For that I think a butter knife to get past the 'sealed' chassis would be far more productive.
Or the 'old' kitchen knife that only gets used on non-food items [everyone owns one] which has helped me get into many a 'non-user servicable' item.
"Sealed unit" to me reads as "challenge".
Anyway, Vista? No. I think I'll stick around for the EeeBox meself...
Steven R
@ Gary F
By MichaelPosted Tuesday 29th July 2008 19:17 GMT
>>>Very nice! Would be even better if they offered a solid state drive. OCZ have a brand new 64GB drive that reads at 120GB/sec. Low power, blisteringly fast, and deadly silent.
Actually, in a comparison against a notebook HDD, SSD's perform WORSE on the power consumption scale. This is because SSDs don't have an idle power-down mode, so they run at full power all the time, whereas most of the energy an HDD consumes is from spinning up the disk initially and moving the actuator arm for reads and writes. And HDDs not in use can be powered down to reduce consumption. Not so with today's SSDs.
More here: http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/ssd-hdd-battery,1955.html
What the BOFH says about green computers.
By Robert MoorePosted Tuesday 29th July 2008 19:23 GMT
"In fact, a REAL computer would have a hole in the front to push trees into and an exhaust pipe out the back for the black smoke to come out of."
Small is nice
By JBPosted Tuesday 29th July 2008 19:53 GMT
I like these mini desktops, and if it came with XP I'd have one. How about its performance in hot weather? I had a PC with an AMD64 which gave up after a few weeks of 90+ degree temps here in California, and that was with lots of active cooling. Will this one give up when the temperature rises?
I don't get it...
By Andrew BushPosted Tuesday 29th July 2008 21:21 GMT
Raises hand to ask question. I don't get it. If they can do a laptop for £299 with a screen and battery included, why is this thing £100 more? I can see a big market for these mini desktops now every man and his uncle has a 42"+ monitor sat in their lounge, but not at more than £150-200. After all, anyone wanting a full blown media centre will buy/build the beast. These little tiddlers are just right for a casual bit of surfing with your TV dinner on your lap, but currently too expensive for such infrequent use.
Vista downgrade
By David SimpsonPosted Tuesday 29th July 2008 22:04 GMT
If you don't like Vista, upon first booting your computer refuse the license and give microsoft a call, they will talk you through your free XP downgrade.
Easy as Pie, I personally like Vista but it will crawl on these wee machines
Yawn...
By Anonymous CowardPosted Wednesday 30th July 2008 08:07 GMT
MacMini does all this in a prettier package and has been doing so since the middle ages. Pimping the case won't make the dell match anyone's living room. It'll just clash like a golfer's jacket unless you've had all your furniture made out of shiny plastic.
And @whoever mentioned 5400 only, my laptop's running on a 7200rpm hitachi in a 2.5" form factor so it could easily be an upgrade.
Re: I don't get it...
By Anonymous CowardPosted Wednesday 30th July 2008 09:00 GMT
I agree, why is this so expensive compared with a laptop? Is it true that you HAVE to pay Windows Tax as well?
Nice design though
Get a Mac Mini
By WillPosted Wednesday 30th July 2008 12:31 GMT
Cheaper (Dell has shite spec) and great interface (front row)
Comments on: Dell's dinky designer desktop
Stability
By IM Phartain Posted Tuesday 29th July 2008 09:43 GMT
Re: Stability
By Daniel Posted Tuesday 29th July 2008 10:06 GMT
Vista Only
By Linbox Posted Tuesday 29th July 2008 10:16 GMT
But it it?
By Anonymous Coward Posted Tuesday 29th July 2008 10:19 GMT
price and windows tax
By paul Posted Tuesday 29th July 2008 10:31 GMT
GBP400 version?
By David Shepherd Posted Tuesday 29th July 2008 10:34 GMT
HDMI
By Simon Posted Tuesday 29th July 2008 10:36 GMT
MediaPC?
By Jonathan Schnittger Posted Tuesday 29th July 2008 10:40 GMT
Odd marketing
By Christopher Smith Posted Tuesday 29th July 2008 10:56 GMT
Why would anyone want...
By Andraž Levstik Posted Tuesday 29th July 2008 11:11 GMT
@ Simon: HDMI
By Stefan Posted Tuesday 29th July 2008 11:27 GMT
If it was availlable with windiows XP or Mythbuntu...
By Eric Van Haesendonck Posted Tuesday 29th July 2008 11:27 GMT
Video Playback
By Steven Dick Posted Tuesday 29th July 2008 11:40 GMT
Really nice form-factor
By Reg Varney Posted Tuesday 29th July 2008 12:09 GMT
Should have an SSD option
By Gary F Posted Tuesday 29th July 2008 12:11 GMT
Stylish?
By David Cornes Posted Tuesday 29th July 2008 12:14 GMT
nice!
By b Posted Tuesday 29th July 2008 12:41 GMT
Driving Home For Christmas
By Static1812 Posted Tuesday 29th July 2008 12:41 GMT
@IM Phartain: Stable
By Bill Cumming Posted Tuesday 29th July 2008 13:17 GMT
80% less size = 70% less power
By Colin Millar Posted Tuesday 29th July 2008 13:21 GMT
I've just checked. It's VISTA only.
By Anonymous Coward Posted Tuesday 29th July 2008 13:49 GMT
In most countries exposing your...
By Anonymous Coward Posted Tuesday 29th July 2008 13:56 GMT
Wheres the screw driver
By Paul Brown Posted Tuesday 29th July 2008 13:56 GMT
Just been onto Dell.
By Anonymous Coward Posted Tuesday 29th July 2008 14:08 GMT
Dinky or Tonka?
By The Stainless Steel Cat Posted Tuesday 29th July 2008 15:19 GMT
@AC Re: Just been on to Dell
By Colin Millar Posted Tuesday 29th July 2008 15:57 GMT
Bamboo, emerald, quartz and ruby???
By Anonymous Coward Posted Tuesday 29th July 2008 16:25 GMT
No XP. Bad News
By simon maasz Posted Tuesday 29th July 2008 16:43 GMT
For the money
By Guy Posted Tuesday 29th July 2008 16:48 GMT
@paul brown
By Steven Raith Posted Tuesday 29th July 2008 18:38 GMT
@ Gary F
By Michael Posted Tuesday 29th July 2008 19:17 GMT
What the BOFH says about green computers.
By Robert Moore Posted Tuesday 29th July 2008 19:23 GMT
Small is nice
By JB Posted Tuesday 29th July 2008 19:53 GMT
I don't get it...
By Andrew Bush Posted Tuesday 29th July 2008 21:21 GMT
Vista downgrade
By David Simpson Posted Tuesday 29th July 2008 22:04 GMT
Yawn...
By Anonymous Coward Posted Wednesday 30th July 2008 08:07 GMT
Re: I don't get it...
By Anonymous Coward Posted Wednesday 30th July 2008 09:00 GMT
Get a Mac Mini
By Will Posted Wednesday 30th July 2008 12:31 GMT