By James AndersonPosted Wednesday 30th July 2008 12:29 GMT
Nokia should concentrate thier design efforts on one or two smartphones that more than five people would buy.
Back of fag packet calculation:-
Total Number of Smartphones sold /
Nokias market share% /
100 /
Number of Nokia smartphones available
= 5
After all Apple seem to have done pretty well with just 4 models.
Alternatively why not open up a bespoke phone service. When you want a phone call up Nokia and have them send over a designer and an engineer who will build you a phone than fly back to Finland - makes more sense than the current scattergun strategy.
And the Apple fanboys say
By Anonymous CowardPosted Wednesday 30th July 2008 12:48 GMT
Waits in anticpation......
Correction, about the E65
By Graham WoodPosted Wednesday 30th July 2008 12:56 GMT
"you had to remove the battery on the E65." is incorrect. Remove the back cover, and the MicroSD slides out to the side - nowhere near the battery.
You need to remove the battery to take the SIM out, but I don't think that's really a problem...
Correction.
By Five HatsPosted Wednesday 30th July 2008 13:02 GMT
"a hot-swappable microSD card - you had to remove the battery on the E65"
No you didn't.
Let's hope the E66 doesnt crash and reboot itself as often as the E65 does.
And the Apple Fanboys say...
By pctechxpPosted Wednesday 30th July 2008 13:43 GMT
Nothin' they are too busy worrying about mobileme and their vanishing contacts....
Meanwgile in Cupertino Evil Steve is sitting with his CFO trying to figure out ways to recover the refunds Apple has had to pay out when people cottoned onto the fact he was trying to rob them.
Gotta say though, why £7/quid for voice guidance, AGPS just drains the battery so would switch off.
Looks a nice phone though, might even make me want to buy a Nokia again.
Handyverboten
By Anonymous CowardPosted Wednesday 30th July 2008 13:46 GMT
In related news, a German court has ruled that using a mobile phone's navigation software is illegal while driving because it is illegal to use a phone while driving, and running the navigation software is running the phone.
By Arnold LiebermanPosted Wednesday 30th July 2008 14:13 GMT
@Graham Wood:
"Let's hope the E66 doesnt crash and reboot itself as often as the E65 does."
Isn't that one of the defining features of just about any smartphone you care to name?
@James Anderson:
"Nokia should concentrate thier design efforts on one or two smartphones that more than five people would buy."
Yeah, if they had just a few models then they might be more inclined to finish off the software before moving onto the next one.
I suppose they need to keep their designers busy in order to catch each annual "upgrade" the contract-tards demand, even if a new model does nothing better than the last dozen did.
Do symbian phones still not have automatic key lock or timed profiles as standard? My 3230 of 2005 is, in general, more poorly specified and with worse battery life than it's predecessor, a Sony Ericsson T68i. However, it does at least run TomTom adequately - WITHOUT A MONTHLY SUBSCRIPTION (Nokia can stick AGPS up it's @r5e).
Sim/SD card.
By MagePosted Wednesday 30th July 2008 14:14 GMT
E65
You CAN change the SD card without powering down, there is a menu option.
If you are careful you can even slide out the SIM without removing battery.
But I bought an Archos 605 WiFi 160GByte as I was dissatisfied with limited storage, you end up installing maps & applications on the SDcard so can't really swap it for other music.
Re: James Anderson
By eugenePosted Wednesday 30th July 2008 14:15 GMT
Just one or two smartphones? I prefer the many-different-models approach. There is no one (or two) phones that will suit everyone - different people have different wants and needs in a phone. An iphone is an iphone is an iphone. Don't like the lack of a keyboard? A heavy user who needs to replace the battery in the middle of the day? Need corporate features, and a phone that actually cares about data security? Sorry, Apple doesn't have a phone for you.
On the other hand, if you need business features, you can get an E66, if you want a keyboard, you can get an E71 or E90. Want just multimedia? You have a selection of N-Series phones to choose from. Don't like the look of one? Get a different one. In the end, nokia will end up selling more phones ... oh .. they already do! :)
Apple seem to have done pretty well with just 4 models? What's their market share now? They're selling an image. It's like saying Prada is doing pretty well with bags. They are, but it doesn't mean Prada bags are superior to <another brand> bags. With the iPhone, people buy them for the name and image, or get fully taken in by the hype and great apple marketing, while the remaining others actually buy it for what it is.
"Makes more sense than the current scattergun strategy" -- it sure seems to be working very well for them! A phone for everyone - not "everyone, you will like this phone!"
I used an iphone for a while but really didn't like typing on a touchscreen. It's a great web surfing (as long as you don't need to type too much) and multimedia device, but a very, very ordinary phone.
Re: Eugene
By James AndersonPosted Wednesday 30th July 2008 14:55 GMT
I have mostly bought Nokias in the past. Last time I was considering upgrading to a smat phone I had a look at the various Nokia offerings, and, basicly gave up.
The profusion of slightly different E.. and N.. models means you need to scan the fine details of feature lists making sure it has what you need and trying to work out what each model has and whethere its worth hte extra -- OK so far this is just normal tech shopping.
The problem is that having done the research and choosen a model its probably not in stock so you have just wasted an hour of your time, or, if it is in stock and you get your hands on one the build quality is c**P and the UI is stoneage and none of the apps are usable.
I really htink they ought to spend the time on fewer better phones, and, spend a lot more time unclunking the user interface.
Why?
By Mike FaircloughPosted Wednesday 30th July 2008 15:01 GMT
Isn't this just a dumbed down N95?
What 'business' features are we really talking about here? Push Email?
@ Arnold Lieberman
By andy rockPosted Wednesday 30th July 2008 16:01 GMT
"contract-tards"
heh heh, i like it. quick, trademark it!
Does it improve the RAM or it is as useless as the 65 for smartphone use
By Anton IvanovPosted Wednesday 30th July 2008 21:11 GMT
The E65 has just about enough RAM to run the bundled SIP client and browse the web. The moment you try to use th IMAP client you are facing the choice of "either SIP or IMAP". So the question is - did they improve the RAM or t is the same crap as before. If it is the same crap as before (64M) it is better to shell out the few extra quid for a proper N-series gadget.
Another question is - did they fix the Bluetooth bugs. With an E65 if you walk out of handsfree coverage you quite often have to reboot (especially if you use the SIP client as well). Quite annoying actually. You almost fell like you are running Winhoze...
Me coat, the one with "Enough E-series, I am going for an N78" on it.
@Mage
By pctechxpPosted Thursday 31st July 2008 08:58 GMT
What's the point of sliding out the SIM without powering down as it causes you to lose connectivity anyway and when you insert the new SIM it has to register so not sure what time you think you are saving.
Missing a QWERTY keypad
By V.B.N.Posted Thursday 31st July 2008 09:43 GMT
says who? Its a business phone without a QWERTY keypad, not missing one though.
Comments on: Nokia E66 smartphone
Another Nokia smartphone!
By James Anderson Posted Wednesday 30th July 2008 12:29 GMT
And the Apple fanboys say
By Anonymous Coward Posted Wednesday 30th July 2008 12:48 GMT
Correction, about the E65
By Graham Wood Posted Wednesday 30th July 2008 12:56 GMT
Correction.
By Five Hats Posted Wednesday 30th July 2008 13:02 GMT
And the Apple Fanboys say...
By pctechxp Posted Wednesday 30th July 2008 13:43 GMT
Handyverboten
By Anonymous Coward Posted Wednesday 30th July 2008 13:46 GMT
Cr@p, just cr@p
By Arnold Lieberman Posted Wednesday 30th July 2008 14:13 GMT
Sim/SD card.
By Mage Posted Wednesday 30th July 2008 14:14 GMT
Re: James Anderson
By eugene Posted Wednesday 30th July 2008 14:15 GMT
Re: Eugene
By James Anderson Posted Wednesday 30th July 2008 14:55 GMT
Why?
By Mike Fairclough Posted Wednesday 30th July 2008 15:01 GMT
@ Arnold Lieberman
By andy rock Posted Wednesday 30th July 2008 16:01 GMT
Does it improve the RAM or it is as useless as the 65 for smartphone use
By Anton Ivanov Posted Wednesday 30th July 2008 21:11 GMT
@Mage
By pctechxp Posted Thursday 31st July 2008 08:58 GMT
Missing a QWERTY keypad
By V.B.N. Posted Thursday 31st July 2008 09:43 GMT