By Joe KPosted Tuesday 2nd September 2008 12:05 GMT
Its not April again already is it??
They really missed a trick here, if it was installed with AmigaOS, or even just dual boot into Amiga in a Box (http://aiab.amiga.sk), this thing would FLY off the shelves through nostalgia alone.
A C= branded machine running XP, perish the thought.
Better name
By Joe MontanaPosted Tuesday 2nd September 2008 12:11 GMT
They should call it the Commodore Amoeba...
I would buy one of these if it had a Linux option, i was a big fan of Commodore back in the days.
Nice design
By KPosted Tuesday 2nd September 2008 12:17 GMT
Shame the keyboard color resemble and early C16.
No thanks.
By Voice of ReasonPosted Tuesday 2nd September 2008 12:18 GMT
While I'm the first in the line for an Amiga laptop for all sorts of wrong reasons, that looks TERRIBLE. The design is like an 80s brick!
A C7???
By Alex WalshPosted Tuesday 2nd September 2008 12:18 GMT
One of the new Via Nanos I could understand but why on earth put a C7 in there and then compound your failure by slapping a £300+ price tag on it?!
Wot, no AmigaOS?
By David ArnoPosted Tuesday 2nd September 2008 12:21 GMT
"There'll be no Linux option, apparently, only Windows XP."
If it came with a 2008 version of AmigaOS, then I might have got excited. Instead it's just another bland overpriced disappointment from a brand name that ought to have the grace to just die.
Nice
By Anonymous CowardPosted Tuesday 2nd September 2008 12:33 GMT
Release a proper Amiga hardware version with Workbench and you've got yourselves a sale.
Just don't expect any support...
By Aaron ScullyPosted Tuesday 2nd September 2008 12:33 GMT
Would never buy another commodore product - their support is non existent (in this country at least). Just like Cowon...
There'll be no Linux option, apparently, only Windows XP.
By RichardPosted Tuesday 2nd September 2008 12:40 GMT
You can always disagree to the Windows XP T&Cs, uninstall and claim the money back. It's happened before.
If it's a Commodore
By Mike RichardsPosted Tuesday 2nd September 2008 13:00 GMT
It'll be a notebook computer with a HUGE power brick that could warm a house - and a tape drive.
WANT
By Stuart HarrisonPosted Tuesday 2nd September 2008 13:05 GMT
OK, judging by the photos, it's no Macbook Air, but for God's sake IT'S GOT A COMMODORE LOGO ON IT! Will definitely up my street cred with the retro computing commuter crowd. The beige plasticy look of it is a nice retro nod too...
ARGH!
By Richard KilpatrickPosted Tuesday 2nd September 2008 13:06 GMT
£325. C7M. XP.
Why, dear god, WHY. What is the point of this?! It'll be slow as hell with the cache-crippled VIA CPU and XP, and the Commodore brand isn't even backed up with a comprehensive/well integrated emulator?
What is the point of launching this dreck when there are established, CHEAPER models?!
No unix
By Anonymous CowardPosted Tuesday 2nd September 2008 13:09 GMT
no go.
Looks ok though, but it will run like the proverbial dog.
Now if one can get the windows tax taken off the price, that could be a goer.
talkin' 'bout the resolution!
By bPosted Tuesday 2nd September 2008 13:22 GMT
10" screen = good.
1gb ram = soso
HD = bad (need SSD's you muppets!)
bbbut what's da res, baby?
cheers,
bill
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Yes, blimey, AmigaOs!
By MattPosted Tuesday 2nd September 2008 13:39 GMT
Gosh yeah, I'd love to see one of those released with AmigaOs, then I could, erm, well I'm not sure what I could do with it really.
Erm, I just kinda remember when computing was fun? - as clearly it's not anymore, is it?
I'm confused.
I'm going to get all nostalgic with my ZX-Spectrum - anyone got a bit of duct tape? - now this is fun...
Re C64
By James PickettPosted Tuesday 2nd September 2008 13:40 GMT
Are they still using the same batch of plastic to make the case?
Commodore != Amiga
By Anonymous CowardPosted Tuesday 2nd September 2008 13:41 GMT
These days, both Commodore and Amiga only exist as brands owned by companies that hope to cash in on their brand recognition (much like Atari). The company that owns the Commodore brand is not the same one that owns the Amiga brand. "Commodore" these days seem to just make standard x86 PCs with pretty cases, while "Amiga" claims to be "a software company dedicated to creating applications and services to help people access and control the content of their unique digital environment. We call this Digital Living™". Bleugh.
a decidedly C64-beating £325
By PaulPosted Tuesday 2nd September 2008 13:50 GMT
My C64 cost more than £325! ...before adding a display and disc drive ;)
Windows XP?
By EnigmaForcePosted Tuesday 2nd September 2008 13:58 GMT
It ain't a Commodore, it's a shit sandwich.
Does it at least come with...
By Anonymous CowardPosted Tuesday 2nd September 2008 14:11 GMT
Does it at least come with the V.I.C.E. emulator and a nice selection of C64 games preinstalled? How about an IEEE-488 port just for fun?
At least it isn't Vista.
By Dave BellPosted Tuesday 2nd September 2008 14:23 GMT
Microsoft have been pushing XP as the OS for this general class of computer, so I'm not all that suprised.
And everyone and their dog sells USB stuff with XP support. Linux, on the other hand, can be a trap. Even "Linux" on the packaging is no guarantee. And, because of that, supporting Linux can be a PITA.
But there is a very comfortable space between no official support, and not being able to easily run Linux. The stupidity is when a manufacturer sells a machine like this which cannot easily run Linux.
Ameagre.
By JolyonPosted Tuesday 2nd September 2008 14:35 GMT
I think my comment is in my other coat.
Pointless
By shane fitzgeraldPosted Tuesday 2nd September 2008 14:40 GMT
....its doesn't even have a run-stop key....
This brought a rush of nostalgia
By P. LeePosted Tuesday 2nd September 2008 14:46 GMT
Yep, it should come with c64/amiga emulators and a range of apps & games.
Paris - who doesn't understand it cos she was born too late.
Want the next one
By Faber foXPosted Tuesday 2nd September 2008 15:34 GMT
I'll wait for the next revision and a bit of a price drop, but I'm really liking the commodore color combo.
SSD instead of HD will be welcome too, as is a no OS/linux version.
Oh, and come on, at least include vice + uae, with legal roms.
Anyone else notice..
By DeanPosted Tuesday 2nd September 2008 15:41 GMT
that those two pictures feature different systems?
Note the rounded edges in the first pic..
Make one with Sinclair branding...
By JoePosted Tuesday 2nd September 2008 15:53 GMT
...and I might be interested!
Nostalgia...
By Mad DogPosted Tuesday 2nd September 2008 16:05 GMT
Come on everyone, the biggest problem with this thing is the price tag! If they sold it for 50 quid they could rock the entire industry and become a "cult" brand on the back of their current nostalgia value. Instead they hobble it and hock it off for £325? If only the accountants hadn't stuck their noses in...
Seriously though, what would be the problem with just wiping it and installing your own Linux?
<dream>Now I want an Acorn one..
By It'sa Mea... MarioPosted Tuesday 2nd September 2008 16:24 GMT
With an ARM chip, that can duel boot Risc OS and Linux! </dream>
Acorn ruled in all they did.... 'cept marketing :(
Flames from (cheers Jolyon..) Ameagre/Atari/Anti-Acorn fanatics will be ignored so save you fingers..
Shame I just got the eee 901
By David HicksPosted Tuesday 2nd September 2008 16:44 GMT
Or this thing would be top of the list.
I loved my c64, and the logo alone would sell this thing to me.
ARM
By MagePosted Tuesday 2nd September 2008 17:04 GMT
Almost every portable device that is NOT an x86 laptop/netbook is ARM based
Nokia Smart phones
iPhone
Archos 6th Gen and new Archos net tablets
unlike the x86 camp the ARM is a core in a chip that does everything.
shame on you nostaligia freaks
By p3ngwinPosted Tuesday 2nd September 2008 17:14 GMT
nobody caught the "peek, poke" reference to scanning and inserting memory data?
Commodore Beige?
By Richard KilpatrickPosted Tuesday 2nd September 2008 17:32 GMT
WTF? It's clearly white. The white balance on the shot hasn't been corrected for artificial lighting.
Again, price-wise - Acer Aspire One, 1GB/120GB, Linux, £229. 1024 x 600, decent 1.6GHz CPU. Asus machines are also competing on similar levels, as is the MSI Wind.
The Commodore shown here, the Maplin/Elonex machine... they're all exceptionally poor value by comparison.
Joe: I was tempted to stick Sinclair logos on my black Eee 701 ;)
Acorn stuff - well, the brand got snapped up. Make enough noise, I'm sure the current owners will be happy to market a subnotebook running XP on a crippled CPU as well.
Nah..Marketing failure-
By Andus McCoatoverPosted Tuesday 2nd September 2008 18:20 GMT
No pert tart on the beach (or bitch on my pert ...)
Ye'well. I was born in Chelsea. Pobody's Nerfect.
to Richard Kilpatrick
By Anonymous CowardPosted Tuesday 2nd September 2008 19:24 GMT
"I was tempted to stick Sinclair logos on my black Eee 701" - now
thats a damn fine idea.... especially the nice main bar one.. I might do that on my black Eee 900
Nostalgia aint the word
By ZmodemPosted Tuesday 2nd September 2008 20:04 GMT
if theyre going to sell that. they should keep it on the drawing baord. until they make it not look like something from the 80s, or they`ll be living on workbench patents for the next 15yrs
It's got FAIL written all over it.
By tardigradePosted Tuesday 2nd September 2008 20:37 GMT
It does what the Acer Aspire One does, only it costs more and doesn't look as good. No Linux and at a price point that is way above the Eee so it's not in that market either. Who is going to buy it?
MMMM, Commodore
By BillPosted Tuesday 2nd September 2008 22:44 GMT
Well, £325 is a little much for a C7 based laptop, and with only 1GB RAM, and 80GB HDD, it's not really worth it.
Shame they didn't use the Atom or the Nano in this and triple the hard drive size and double the RAM, then it would be a contender.
I wouldn't be surprised if they were counting on the Commodore branding to sell it.
Also it should come preloaded with a C64 Emulator and every game that was ever made for the C64.
Underspecced, overpriced...
By Steven RaithPosted Tuesday 2nd September 2008 23:57 GMT
They seem to have gone straight back to the days of the Amiga 600 and CD32.
And if it's anything like my second generation C64, it'll be about as reliable as, er, something sentient with a nasty sense of humour. Although that might have been the tape deck being crap.
Still, nowt wrong with a bit of nostalgia...and my S1 C64/tape deck was much better in terms of reliabilty.
[I want my one in S1 C64 light grey with black keys [and the System keys - Win, Pause, PrntScrn et al can be dark grey. In a row. Down the side]
Lovely.
Steven
10 Print "Steven R is great";
20 goto 10
30 End
Raith
Er....
By Dave MorrisPosted Wednesday 3rd September 2008 00:11 GMT
Holy factual inaccuracy Batman!.
According to this: http://www.commodorecorp.com/repository/document/90.pdf factsheet from the Commodore website. Which is freely available and publicly facing, and should have been easily accessed by anyone. This machine comes with "MS WinXP or Linux Operating System."
Also note that this SCC has it's own girl on the first page. While not as scantily clad as the EEE girl, she's still quite attractive.
The guy on the second page, however, looks pretty confused; and well he should be.. why is he there.. he doesn't even have a computer.. just a cup of coffee or tea.
If it's got an HDD its not an SCC
By Adrian EsdailePosted Wednesday 3rd September 2008 03:09 GMT
If there's no SSD then its not an SCC.
I think I'll stick an old C64 sticker on my Asus and run Frodo on it, thanks.
If it could run my 'Blue Meanies' cartridge I'd be sold!!
By fred scuttlePosted Wednesday 3rd September 2008 03:25 GMT
Flogged the Vic 20 on tatBay years ago - big mistake..........Nuff said...
Mines the one with the cream and beige pockets!!!
@Dave
By Richard KilpatrickPosted Wednesday 3rd September 2008 08:17 GMT
Yes, very enlightening. It doesn't specify the clock speed of that C7, the resolution of the display, the formats handled by the card reader...
What is does clarify is that:
The device is white.
The USB ports are in a stupid place.
FWIW, they may plan to offer it with Linux but are choosing to offer it with XP only for the time being. Not that El Reg is always accurate or even fair (see: FlipStart coverage), but they're only going to be as good as the information they're given when dealing with press released or third-party reports from shows.
Um....
By David HayesPosted Wednesday 3rd September 2008 08:48 GMT
The datasheet....
She's using a DELL laptop! And that guy's just begging for change, because he's not got enough money for "the train home".
I'd love nothing more than the nostalgia factor of a Winblows Amiga Laptop, but they can't even sort out their datasheet, then I'm out...
Erm..Aint that...
By Andus McCoatoverPosted Wednesday 3rd September 2008 09:04 GMT
...a Sinclair MK14 in a tacky case? Now, THAT was a real 'puter!
decisions
By OutcastPosted Wednesday 3rd September 2008 12:11 GMT
Since when have Commodore or Amiga ever made good business decisions ?
btw.. AmigaOS is still alive and very much in development
Comments on: Commodore launches little laptop
*checks calendar*
By Joe K Posted Tuesday 2nd September 2008 12:05 GMT
Better name
By Joe Montana Posted Tuesday 2nd September 2008 12:11 GMT
Nice design
By K Posted Tuesday 2nd September 2008 12:17 GMT
No thanks.
By Voice of Reason Posted Tuesday 2nd September 2008 12:18 GMT
A C7???
By Alex Walsh Posted Tuesday 2nd September 2008 12:18 GMT
Wot, no AmigaOS?
By David Arno Posted Tuesday 2nd September 2008 12:21 GMT
Nice
By Anonymous Coward Posted Tuesday 2nd September 2008 12:33 GMT
Just don't expect any support...
By Aaron Scully Posted Tuesday 2nd September 2008 12:33 GMT
There'll be no Linux option, apparently, only Windows XP.
By Richard Posted Tuesday 2nd September 2008 12:40 GMT
If it's a Commodore
By Mike Richards Posted Tuesday 2nd September 2008 13:00 GMT
WANT
By Stuart Harrison Posted Tuesday 2nd September 2008 13:05 GMT
ARGH!
By Richard Kilpatrick Posted Tuesday 2nd September 2008 13:06 GMT
No unix
By Anonymous Coward Posted Tuesday 2nd September 2008 13:09 GMT
talkin' 'bout the resolution!
By b Posted Tuesday 2nd September 2008 13:22 GMT
Yes, blimey, AmigaOs!
By Matt Posted Tuesday 2nd September 2008 13:39 GMT
Re C64
By James Pickett Posted Tuesday 2nd September 2008 13:40 GMT
Commodore != Amiga
By Anonymous Coward Posted Tuesday 2nd September 2008 13:41 GMT
a decidedly C64-beating £325
By Paul Posted Tuesday 2nd September 2008 13:50 GMT
Windows XP?
By EnigmaForce Posted Tuesday 2nd September 2008 13:58 GMT
Does it at least come with...
By Anonymous Coward Posted Tuesday 2nd September 2008 14:11 GMT
At least it isn't Vista.
By Dave Bell Posted Tuesday 2nd September 2008 14:23 GMT
Ameagre.
By Jolyon Posted Tuesday 2nd September 2008 14:35 GMT
Pointless
By shane fitzgerald Posted Tuesday 2nd September 2008 14:40 GMT
This brought a rush of nostalgia
By P. Lee Posted Tuesday 2nd September 2008 14:46 GMT
Want the next one
By Faber foX Posted Tuesday 2nd September 2008 15:34 GMT
Anyone else notice..
By Dean Posted Tuesday 2nd September 2008 15:41 GMT
Make one with Sinclair branding...
By Joe Posted Tuesday 2nd September 2008 15:53 GMT
Nostalgia...
By Mad Dog Posted Tuesday 2nd September 2008 16:05 GMT
<dream>Now I want an Acorn one..
By It'sa Mea... Mario Posted Tuesday 2nd September 2008 16:24 GMT
Shame I just got the eee 901
By David Hicks Posted Tuesday 2nd September 2008 16:44 GMT
ARM
By Mage Posted Tuesday 2nd September 2008 17:04 GMT
shame on you nostaligia freaks
By p3ngwin Posted Tuesday 2nd September 2008 17:14 GMT
Commodore Beige?
By Richard Kilpatrick Posted Tuesday 2nd September 2008 17:32 GMT
Nah..Marketing failure-
By Andus McCoatover Posted Tuesday 2nd September 2008 18:20 GMT
to Richard Kilpatrick
By Anonymous Coward Posted Tuesday 2nd September 2008 19:24 GMT
Nostalgia aint the word
By Zmodem Posted Tuesday 2nd September 2008 20:04 GMT
It's got FAIL written all over it.
By tardigrade Posted Tuesday 2nd September 2008 20:37 GMT
MMMM, Commodore
By Bill Posted Tuesday 2nd September 2008 22:44 GMT
Underspecced, overpriced...
By Steven Raith Posted Tuesday 2nd September 2008 23:57 GMT
Er....
By Dave Morris Posted Wednesday 3rd September 2008 00:11 GMT
If it's got an HDD its not an SCC
By Adrian Esdaile Posted Wednesday 3rd September 2008 03:09 GMT
If it could run my 'Blue Meanies' cartridge I'd be sold!!
By fred scuttle Posted Wednesday 3rd September 2008 03:25 GMT
@Dave
By Richard Kilpatrick Posted Wednesday 3rd September 2008 08:17 GMT
Um....
By David Hayes Posted Wednesday 3rd September 2008 08:48 GMT
Erm..Aint that...
By Andus McCoatover Posted Wednesday 3rd September 2008 09:04 GMT
decisions
By Outcast Posted Wednesday 3rd September 2008 12:11 GMT
Re: Um....
By Jon Lamb Posted Wednesday 3rd September 2008 12:40 GMT
poke 36879,8
By Anonymous Coward Posted Wednesday 3rd September 2008 12:46 GMT
Poke 36879,8
By Alan Parsons Posted Wednesday 3rd September 2008 14:22 GMT